Final Thoughts on Utopia by @TVTater



Final Thoughts on Utopia

Disclaimer: all of these opinions are my own. Obviously, you are all welcome to your own opinions, but since I am the one writing this post, they won’t count. You may disagree with these opinions. That is your right, but it will not change the words you read in the paragraphs below.

Utopia started out as being a reality show unlike all the others. And that’s pretty much all we were told about it. A lot of people had expectations about what it should be. It turned out to be different. So here are some quick thoughts about what was good and bad about the show, and why I think it failed.

Feeds (the good):
The show started out on the feeds, roughly a week before the first TV show aired. Two of the four streams were free! That was groundbreaking. We were told cashcamthat these feeds would be different, with less censorship. And… that lasted 2 days. We got nudity, and fights and cursing. You could tell production was still learning because they didn’t know what to show on the feeds when they wanted to hide what was really going on. They tried blurring the whole picture, then tried the zoomed out yard view, and weeks later settled on a cow cam (the utopia version of Big Brother’s Fish Cam)

It took a few weeks before production needed to cut the feeds, and with remarkable speed they copied Big Brothers sole innovation of 2014, and showed us a recap show on the feeds to entertain the masses while the meeting with production was going on.

Feeds (the bad):
One of my biggest gripes about Big Brother is that it lacks transparency. From a viewer perspective, Utopia started off differently but over time migrated to the same bad habits.

Newsflash: we know it’s a TV show. Stop trying to mute the feeds or cut away every time production needs to interact with the contestants. Stop prohibiting contestants from talking about production. The show’s production can ask them to minimize it, but don’t insult the viewers by pretending that the tv show staff doesn’t exist, and isn’t interacting with the contestants.

utopiavsBBAlso, one of the things I wanted from day one was a confessional cam. Not staged or prompted (i.e. the diary room cam, or a chick coop cam), just a place for a contestant to go, away from everyone else, and talk to us on the feeds, unedited about whatever they want to talk about. This builds a connection between the viewers and the contestants in a way that just watching their actions doesn’t. And Utopia finally added it, a few days before they got cancelled.

Anther big complaint: the lack of a flash back feature. OK, so Utopia production department didn’t have the technology to do what Big Brother does. I’m not happy with that, but they did have another way to solve the problem that they totally failed to use properly. Every day they would give us 5-7 one minute clips of things that happened. That was a mistake. Stop wasting time editing it down to a one minute highlight. Show us any interesting conversations for as long as they lasted, from one camera. Magically all the time they spent editing web highlights together could be saved and more total content could be archived for the people who want to see all the details.

One thing Utopia production NEVER mastered: getting the audio shown on an individual live feed to match up with the people on the screen. I’ll just write this one off to lack of man power, but it really really annoyed the viewers.

Finally, the muting and censorship. I get it that the FOX network executives from their lofty perches on the 50th floor somewhere put the kibosh on showing too much nudity. But those rules were applied inconsistently, and were significantly worse on nights and weekends. The same goes with muting conversations. All we the viewers want is to know the rules about what can and can’t be shown/heard and for those rules to be applied consistently and then guess what, we will shut up about them. Well, with the exception of where the feeds mute out every other word or half of every sentence of a conversation. It’s unwatchable. Find something else to show us if you are going to do that. Don’t waste our time!

TV show:
Overall I liked the TV show, and watched it every week. I know other feedsters didn’t. Some said they didn’t watch because everything was shown on the feeds. (implying that we should be shown less on the feeds? NO THANK YOU!) I would have liked the show to be one three days a week, if only because it was a very nice and clean way to see anything we missed on the feeds. Yeah I know story lines were edited and some people were misrepresented on the tv show, but that’s life, with a limited resource (42 minutes of tv time) you fit in what you can.

The Website / Apps:
LOVED the iphone app. And the 360 camera on the iPhone app was amazing
Utopia AppLiked the iPad app. slightly harder to switch feeds then the iPhone app (was surprised they weren’t the same)
Accepted the Android app. Was even harder to switch feeds.

Tolerated the website (mostly so I could get screenshots) It was a responsive design web failure. Far too much room was wasted at the top and right hand side (a one inch empty margin that would not go away no matter how small the window got? Fire the designer!) All I want, as a viewer is 95% of the web window to be the feeds, and 5% to be the navigation, and NOTHING else. Unless you’re paying rent on my monitor, stop wasting space!

Interacting with viewers:
Loved that the show had an official twitter account, that occasionally snarked with us, but most of the time they just tried to play psychiatrist and asked us what we though about anything we would tweet about, and then never responded to the answer, so that was a fail. Annoyed that they appeared to ignore any criticism of the streams, not even having the common courtesy to say “it’s been noted, and will be passed along to the appropriate people, thank you.”

Loved that one of the executive producers tweeted with us. My sincere apologies to you for the sheer number of people that treated you as the complaint department for the whole show.

The Cast:
I’m not going to hate on anyone that was cast. Sorry. I’m sure back in real life they have friends and family, and have a place in that structure. They were all taken out of that and put into a situation where there was a non-existent social order to see what would happen. That’s the whole show in a nutshell. A whole lot of you didn’t get/accept that. But more on that below.

I will say I did like Rob & Mike, when they were clowning around, and being happy. I know some of the viewers got all butthurt when Rob or Mike talked trash about the viewers. As if we weren’t talking trash about them. Production did their part to fix this by giving us the direct nomination, but it was just a little too late.

A lot of people online complained about Aaron, but I didn’t see anyone else too anxious to take over the full time duties of taking over the kitchen. At the end of the day, all Nikki really wanted was to be Aaron’s boss. Not to do the work. The week she “took over” the kitchen, Cal and Josh did most of the cooking.

As for Aaron’s stealing, cry me a river. The guy took somewhere between $12-20 of the groups money and bought snacks with it. Some twitterers wanted to call the police and report him. Words fail to describe how stupid an idea this was.

Am I an Aaron fan? No. and I was happy to see him be replaced as soon as possible. But the hate displayed by some on twitter far exceeded anything bad that our Shady Chef did.

I still think Bella is better off being outside Utopia where she can be with people who accept her for who she is, and can get the meals she thinks she needs. She claims to now be without a home, perhaps one of her staunch online defenders will step up and help her out, the way Pastor Jon did with Dave. I doubt it, (twitter is full of talkers) but I’ll try to remain optimistic.

Why Utopia failed:

mikeThe utopia society failed because they tried to replicate a full blown democracy with only 15 people. I hate to be blunt, but I blame Mike for this. Every time they needed to figure out how to organize decision making, it eventually lead back to Mike, and he always said “well, I don’t want to tell you how to do it, but… here’s how we do it in the US government” and they they would copy it wholesale. That’s not Mike’s fault. But him being there and giving them the blueprints to an existing bloated system, and the rest of the utopians being too lazy to stand up and say “No way! We need something smaller.” is what ultimately caused the failure.

This lead to a government system that could not get out of it’s own way (sound familiar?) It lacked leadership, and a vision of where to go or what to do. Because the show was cast with 15 leader type personalities, no one wanted to step down, or really accept anyone else’s way of doing things, which just lead to head butting. And who ever was the vocal minority would stop projects because “it’s not fair to me, y’all!” It didn’t help that they all knew they could (and would!) leave so they had no “personal” investment in seeing the project thru. No investment = no need to help out with chores or projects they just couldn’t be bothered to do.

What should have happened, and would have worked was to set up a family or tribe leadership, with a set of goals, and follow thru on them. Then there would have been a lot more done in a lot less time.

The TV show failed because it was just too damn slow. None of us knew what to expect other then “Big Brother sucks! Hey look a new show! It’s not a contest! They are building something!” Umm, ok. Because the Utopians failed to actually show progress building anything, Utopia turned into a soap opera. And as a TV show, it wasn’t terribly interesting.

The lack of “confessionals” on the show hurt having the Utopians connect with the audience. This was corrected in the last episode, but again, too little, too late.

Showing constant fighting, or constant relationship building alienated different parts of the viewing audience. I think ultimately viewers want the fake conflict and drama associated with performing a task/game, and don’t want to just watch people bickering over real life issues. (Coincidentally, FOX has a whole channel for that too!)

If the show had started off with the 15 people organizing themselves into a family structure, and immediately started on better housing, and better cooking, it might have been better, or more boring. I don’t know. Reality check, they took 15 average-ish city dwellers and put them on a farm with no training. It didn’t work.


CAUTION: this is the part where I do a reality check on the viewers and some of their ideas. If you keep reading, you may very well be offended here, you’ve been warned.

The Viewtopians: I interacted with about a thousand people thru twitter. I had a lot of laughs, and once or twice got really angry at some stupidity I saw on twitter. For everyone who made me laugh, thank you! And for twitterers who argued with me, here’s my list of why you were wrong, in no particular order:

Aaron stealing: see above. I’m still stupefied at the people suggesting that the police should have been called. You f’ing idiots really expect law enforcement to waste their time and production’s time to see if somehow, some actual law was broken on Aaron ordering food in a manner that you didn’t approve of.

The cows: I have to stop myself from writing a book here. Hey A-holes! You don’t know more about cows then the vets that were looking after them. If they cows had been in actual danger, they would have been taken away. All your complaining got you was the feeds would switch somewhere else anytime anyone walked near the stables for a few weeks. And I don’t know if anyone did call ASPCA or PETA about the animals, but again if you did, you really really need to learn how to be a buttoutski.

In the real world, calves are taken away from their mothers at birth, and the two never see each other again. They are grown to sexual maturity, have 3-5 calves, (to keep producing milk) and are then sold to a butcher. There is nothing glamorous about the life of a cow.

Did Bri underfeed the cows? yes. To a dangerous level? No. How do we know this? –> Were the cows taken away? No. The vets came and told them to start feeding the cows better, and the problem was solved.

Bella: Bella was “the squeaky wheel gets the grease” personified. For some reason, middle-aged women and older men on twitter loved her. I’m guessing these same people would dislike her with a passion if they had to live with her for more than a few days. James the newtopian said as much after he was there for two days. Any time Bella didn’t get her way she would throw a fit, then have a pity party, and you viewers bought the “poor Bella” routine time and time again. She played you guys like a fiddle. It didn’t help that the show gave her an edit of being the hapless victim. They failed to show that in reality she was a professional victim, both causing the drama, then running away from it crying for somebody, ANYBODY to help her.

And you the viewers didn’t help. I thought it ironic the number of tweets I saw lambasting paying utopians for their early art, then some other people gave $3K for Bella’s watercolors. I’m not going to get into judging the art, that’s in the eye of the beholder. But it is pretty easy to assess a value of it by seeing what comparable pieces from other undiscovered artists go for in the same marketplace (i.e. eBay). You all were paying pity money (much higher them marketplace value) for the artwork. This inflated Bella’s ego, and if the Utopians had any sense, they would have found a way to use her properly (read: sugarmomma) The only reason they didn’t was because every time they met a Bella demand, she came back with one 10x bigger, and that’s ultimately unsustainable.

cropcirclegardenUtopia income: Understand, utopia was set up to be a community of artists, and anything else was (unfortunately, perhaps unintentionally) rigged to fail. They had 3 acres of land, of which they could plant a garden on about 1/2 an acre (that’s not enough to feed 15 people.) They were dropped in at the beginning of fall, and Bella, the super gardener, immediately wasted weeks planting poorly designed gardens full of spring time plants. (towards the end Cal started doing things right, but that still wasn’t going to pay off in food for months)

The cows were a huge problem, they cost $800-$1000/month in feed and hay. If the utopians had proper room to graze them for free, they would have been economically viable. Since they didn’t have the land, they were not. They should have been sold or eaten (yeah, I said it) and the Utopians should have just bought milk as needed. $800/month buys a lot of milk, more than all the utopians needed for drinking and making soap. Yeah, I had people trying to justify the cows by saying if they would only use the milk to make soap to sell the cows would pay for themselves. That’s a pretty lame justification. And it also doesn’t add up, but I’m done arguing logic with people fighting back with emotion.

Because Utopia was unfortunately located in California, they were stifled with business regulations that prevented them from all sorts of things they could have done to make money. Pretty sure James could not set up a hair salon, heck even Aaron probably would have had issues selling food as a concession (not that any visitors would be in a hurry to buy it) So they were basically stuck selling tickets to the zoo, and selling artwork of questionable quality. I’m amazed at the number of twitterers saying they should be doing something else, when in reality, there wasn’t much else they could do. None of them could leave and get a job. Visitors/Buyers couldn’t stop by on their own schedule. Even Josh said (paraphrased): “well if we wait long enough, production will just give us what we need.”

One final thought: To the hater hypocrites who blasted production for providing anything for Rob and Jess’s wedding then turned around and gushed about ‘how can we buy stuff for Amanda’s baby shower???’, I’ve prepared a small speech for you. Well, it’s not much of a speech, it’s really only two words. And one of them is “you!”


Have I missed some things? Probably. I’m a little tired and burnt out of Utopia as I write this. Tweet me at @tvtater and tell me how right or wrong I am!


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His identity is a secret ... but his snark isn't! When not dodging the peeler or becoming twice baked this spud is known on twitter for his sharp whit! He will be blogging the Fox hit Utopia for us all season long. So check out his blogs and follow him on social media with the links below.


  1. Alexandra Michele on

    Great points. I think your comments about the feed issues and particularly the confessional were spot on. As well as the odd abuse of HippyKid as the designated whipping post.Just silly when you have such a great resource from whom to get extra information.

    I disagree about Aaron, I think you way underplayed the amount he pilfered, from not ordering personal food and using the community food as his personal buffet, to his constant overspending, deliberately covered by Mike and Ded, to the wine/champagne taken from Rob’s party, he was always out for himself.

    I think you also maligned Nikki a bit. She never claimed to be a cook, but the week it was her kitchen, there were happier people and fuller bellies. It was not about being the boss of Aaron, but simply taking away his control in which he used food as a weapon. When you realize that 95 percent of the arguments were silly spats about food, Aaron’s issues become a bit more serious. And took focus from moving forward that could have happened much sooner.

    I was not as big a fan of the actual show as you were. I thought there was a bit too much emphasis on the faux-mances and not enough on the actual community building. The sad thing is, the last show was by far the best-paced and the most true to the feeds. The confessionals really helped that by filling in history without having to plod through inane conversations to get there.

    All that said, it was a fun ride, and I am sad it was gone. I have absolutely loved your posts on Twitter and I especially enjoyed those of us who could find the humor while others were mired down by the whining.

  2. Fox execs infighting and fox fighting with De Mol over with huge difference between Dutch and US Utopia. Fox doid not promote Utopia much, I saw one commercial during football game on the day the show started. A show this different from the Dutch show and any other “Reality” show deserved at least a 6 month commitment. oh well i could go on and write a book, but my main point was FOX was reason the show failed.

  3. I work at home, so was able to watch the feeds daily. I, and several of my online friends, were totally hooked. The TV show was poor in my opinion, it just couldn’t show enough, and the host and music were creepy, so I am not surprised that it failed in the ratings. I would love to see someone try something like this again, but here is the question: How do you monetize a live feed so that you can keep that going? How many people were watching the feed? IMO the feed was a success, the TV show a fail.

  4. Overall I enjoyed your article.. I would have added one thing though… The CHAT on their WEBSITE with the Premium Passport. It was even poorly designed.

  5. I Don’t know how often Tator actually watched the feeds, but there were some who were so hooked they watched them sleep! I think Alexandra’s and Edwin’s comments are more spot on in a lot of areas than Tators! As far as Aaron is concerned, he totally dismisses what he did to stealing 12-20$ from the Uts. He not only did that, but consistently plotted with Kristen late at night to starve them or control their food for more power in the group. Aaron should have signed up for Big Brother, because that’s what he thought he was playing. 90% of the fights were due to his control over the food and people being hungry, while he stole money to buy extra for himself and stuffed his mouth from the community shelf all day while others were outside working. He deleted emails that would bring in business for others to prop himself up even further. He even went as far to steal from a customer who dropped a 20$ bill on the ground, so he could buy food off the food truck. Tator also dismisses the week that Nikki cooked, but regardless of who helped her, they were full and happy at the end of the day. Which is what they needed, not more fighting over spoonfuls of rice and beans.
    I also think he gets the cow thing wrong, especially on their cost effectiveness ……there are thousands of us that have cows, that get up and take care of the cows, enjoy the benefits of that with milk, butter, cheese, sour cream, buttermilk….and soap. They were stuck with Bri, who lets face it, didn’t know squat about cows, and was probably the laziest person in Utopia. She actually ended up killing one of the chickens because she was just feeding them stratch the first two weeks. Yes, it cost money to have animals, but if managed properly, they are cost effective. Otherwise, thousands wouldn’t have them in real life. If they hadn’t trusted BRI, in the beginning, things could have been different.

  6. I forgot to mention, I agree with him on his assessment about Mike. But I did blame Mike because he gave up on Utopia the day Red and Dave stomped on the food. It totally freaked him out to the point that he just threw his hands up in the air and said I’m gonna do comedy….and bad comedy…lol!
    Another thing, I think production started re-writing history on the show, instead of showing what was really happening inside of Utopia. I always said why do they keep cramming Bris down our throats, instead of the starvation, power struggles, the stealing, the cheating by some, all of which was like a train wreck you couldn’t take your eyes off. I loved the confessionals, which should have been from day one to bring a closer relationship to the non-feeder. There was non continuity from one show to the next

  7. Why am I just finding this now? Awesome article even if I don’t agree with all of what you stated. After all, Parmigiano Reggiano sells for 19$ a pound so I think some use could have been made from the cows, just sayin’. But there was no planning, and I 100% agree that Mike is to blame for passing the buck on being what ALL of them looked to him for: Leadership. Mike was the lamebrain of fault within Utopia spreading his derision and mockery to Rob until he became a Real Life #TrollBoy and in turn spread that to Taylor etc. But These were the causes of failure within. FOX killed the show too. Jon Kroll was the only one who really cared and he was truly awesome to give so much of himself to us Viewtopians.

    I would live to see a write up comparing Utopia US to Utopia NL which, I know was given more than twice the amount of start up money. I will be sharing this article Stat Potato guy, TV Tator. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! <3

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